In my kit business we are rapidly using general microcontrollers for alot of kits. Currently in Hong Kong the PIC16F84A-04/P cost me $US1.92 in lots of several 100 while the Atmel AT89C2051-24PC costs me $US0.63 and AT90S1200-12PC are $US1.26. Consequently, in my current projects I am telling former PIC developers that I want an Atmel uC. If they cannot do it, sorry. Why are general PIC uC's so expensive? regards, Peter Crowcroft DIY Electronics (HK) Ltd PO Box 88458, Sham Shui Po, Hong Kong Voice: 852-2720 0255, 6273 2049(m) Fax: 852-2725 0610 Web: http://kitsrus.com Email: peter@kitsrus.com ---------------------------------------------------------- -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body