This topic is discussed often on the comp.homeautomation newsgroup. I belive there is a web site where you can download the tones (3 chimes) and put it on your answering machine. Personally I take great pride in requesting that my name is removed from their list, significantly reduced my problems Kev > > IIRC it is simply the tones that you hear when you call an inactive phone > > line. There was a similar project in a recent issue of Poptronics IIRC. It > > is NOT worth the $80 something dollars they want for it. TTYL -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu