Peter Bruinsma wrote, >I was thinking along the line of legged robots who are learning how to >walk from scratch, e.g. they have all the necessary hardware but they >need to 'come up' with the software. In my experience GE and GP only really work when you have huge populations (hundreds of thousands) over large numbers of generations (hundreds). It may prove impractical for a couple of dozon physical real robots to learn how to walk. Simulated robots using simulated PIC's on the other hand... You could build a simulated Robot, plug it into Virtual Breadboard with a PIC16F877 simulated controller and let your bots make whoopie :-) Hey now this becoming fun. While I am at it I could make an internet plugin extension to virtual breadboard to allow interested members to host their own pet robots as part of the "collective" (any trekies out there) so that potentially several thousand simulated robots could be going at it like rabbits at any one time. And as it so happens..(no co-incidence really) I am just about to release the new version of Virtual Breadboard with an extensibily component and a PIC16F877 so I am motivated to contribute to something like this to increase interest in Virtual Breadboard. Once it learns to walk the real thing could be built to see how it goes. Funny thing is that I actually did my university thesis on this exact thing 10 years ago. I build a GE that learn't how to program a fuzzy logic controller to control a PIXAR Luxo lamp simulation for "smooth and optimal motion" and also how to drive a car around a track. Might have to drag the old code out... Who knows.. it might actually walk!! Regards, James Caska http://www.virtualbreadboard.com caska@virtualbreadboard.com ujVM - 'The worlds smallest java virtual machine' -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body