>I will agree with that.  FOrget using basic if you can, ASM is not hard,=
 it
>takes a little while to get in to the ASM mode of thinking (e.g. carrying
>out complex opperations with only 35 instructions) but once you get the=
 hang
>of it, it gives you amazing felxability.

        I agree with JP. My first days using PIC ASM were a walk in the hell! I=
 came from CISC processors and found it hard to "shift" the thinking way.=
 BUT after a week, some things shifted to 2nd gear and I started to do=
 something interesting.

        My timeline, if you are interested, along with the prices

        1 - downloaded MPAsm - cost zero
        2 - downloaded NoPPP - cost zero
        3 - Constructed NoPPP - I had all the parts in my dust bin, so it costs=
 zero. But If you had to buy all the parts you would spend something around=
 $5. Hint: A DAT plastic box is excellent to fit the circuit ;o)
        4 - bought some PICs. Since I live in Brazil, these were expensive, so=
 I'll not mention the costs here
        5 - I had a protoboard at hand. Also some components. But for beginner's=
 play, I'd buy (or build) these things:
                - Some 15 LEDs. Red ones to be cheap ;o)
                - a handful of 33pf caps (for the clock circuit)
                - 4MHz crystals
                - 220R resistors (also a handful)
                - A small protoboard (mind in spending a bit more money? no? Buy the GSC=
 ones. 3M ACE also are the good kind)
                - A little +5V power supply (do it yourself hehehe)
        6 - Installed everything in der puter, started to code a SMALL application=
 - a led blinking.
        7 - Took a good can of water, happy doing my first PIC ASM program

        An EXCELLENT resource for pic small projects are a file called=
 "examples.zip" I took from a site from someone here on this list, that I=
 don't remember who or where, but I can look for it and send you if you=
 want. Also, the pic course from...ih...I forgot, I'll look for it here :o(=
 Bad memory in a sunday morning ;oP

        Good luck! You'll have lots of fun in the end!


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Alexandre Souza
taito@terra.com.br
http://planeta.terra.com.br/lazer/pinball/

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