Just for interest there are two common direct uses I know of for the Lorenz effect. One is for pumping liquid solder in wave solder machines. If you have a pipe filled with liquid solder and you put a magnetic field crosswise through the pipe and an electric current vertically through the pipe it pumps solder through the pipe. There are no moving parts except the solder so maintenance is easy. I have heard of something similar for pumping liquid sodium in nuclear reactors. The other use is for measuring currents of seawater. The probe is usually ball shaped with magnetic pole pieces protruding from the top and bottom. An AC magnetic field is impressed in the seawater surrounding the ball. Electrodes on the equator of the ball pick up the electric field produced by the sea water moving through this field. Again there are no moving parts so maintenance is easy and these current meters can withstand seaweed, tree branches, etc. They are good for measuring storm waters as they batter coastal constructions. Both of these are clearly moving conductor / stationary magnetic field machines. Sherpa Doug -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body