On Thursday 11 October 2001 01:48 pm, I wrote: > You might look at the Luxeon Star LEDs available from Future/Active. Oh yeah; I forgot the web sites. They have data sheets and design guides. Try http://www.luxeon.com or http://www.lumileds.com These LEDs are available for about $10 each from Future/Active if they have "broken stock". Also, Arc Flashlight LLC is selling small quantities of the Star/O (10 degree with optics) to experimenters for $14 each. -- Ned Konz currently: Stanwood, WA email: ned@bike-nomad.com homepage: http://bike-nomad.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.