I tried out Russell's circuit, mainly out of curiosity. It works quite well, but aside from the novelty, I did not need a method to light an LED from a single cell. But it *is* interesting... The best LED drive seems to be to connect the LED from the output to the supply, as Russell mentioned. Also, since NPN's are typically faster than PNP's, I reversed the topology and achieved faster switching times. This improves efficiency slightly and I think allows for higher voltages to be produced. So if you have a handful of old alkaline batteries sitting around waiting to be disposed of, you can squeeze every last electron out them and have a bunch of blinking LEDs decorating your lab in the dark. In practical terms, aside from LED's, there is a good use for this circuit. There have been several requests on the piclist for power supply circuits so if you want one to play with, this is a good one as it is very low power and won't likely let out the magic smoke from inside the parts. And it's a lot safer than, say, offline switchers. Finally, if one needs to power up a pic circuit from a single cell (key fob transmitter, rtc, etc.), you could do a lot worse than to try this out. With the led removed, it's not too hard to get 5 or 6 volts out of it. And since pic's can be made to run down to around 3 volts, it should do nicely to power them. Tom M. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads