Yes, I am trying to use one 40-pin ZIF socket in the El Cheapo board to accommodate all the various DIP chip sizes. The original PCB was designed to accept a 14-pin (standard or ZIF), an 18-pin (standard or ZIF), and a chopped up 40-pin (with half of an 28-pin inside) standard IC socket. Figure 13-18 on page 600 of the book shows an El Cheapo with 14- and 18-pin ZIF sockets and the chopped up 40/28 standard IC socket. The ZIF (zero insertion force) sockets are very convenient to use, but cost about $10.00 or more a piece. What I wanted to do is use just one Aries 40-pin Universal ZIF socket to accommodate all the chip sizes (the 8-, 14-, 18-, 28-, and 40-pin DIPs). Of course, additional power rails, the MCLR, Strobe, and select lines must be hand wired to the appropriate pins on the 40-pin socket to provide these connections for the smaller chips. Since I am a newbie on this topic, I wanted to ask the group whether this concept was workable. So far, I have not seen any replies. I bought the Aries Universal ZIF socket online from Digi-Key, but I am sure any large electronics supply house would carry it. I think it was about $12.00. Just do a search and you should easily find it. Leon N3BOB Mike Kendall wrote: > Howdy Leon, > I'm wondering as I started to build an El Cheapo programmer myself. It > appeared in the book that I needed to "chop up" a few different types of ZIF > sockets. Is this type that you are discussing a ready unit to be soldered > into the board that is provided with the book? If so, can you please > provide a link for the web page or ordering info on it? > Regards/thanks, > Mike/ke6cvh -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body