Hi James. I think it's time to change rules. I have few suggestions. All people who post spam should be warned first. 2nd step is tempora- -rily disable them from posting if warning doesn't work. Restricted person cannot post more then two messages a day and every message is no more than 10 lines. Every restricted person message that doesn't obey this rule is simply rejected from posting. I think week is ok to recover that person for posting again. Actually I think we should restrict message sizes for anybody, there is no reason to attach big files even for regular members, simple link to web or ftp can be posted. Lets say no more than 10Kbytes in one message. This is huge size for text information. There is no reason either to quote all original text and write couple of own comments on the top or bottom. This should be classified as spam. Any messages that some person just replied like "I agreed" without giving any useful info should be classified as spam too. If warnings don't work several times person should be removed. All newcomers should have restricted ability to post. i.e. few messa- -ges a day no longer than 10 lines of text for instance. If somebody really interested to get an answer and he/she already did searched through internet for answers he/she will be able to briefly ask a question. If person doesn't understand what he/she is looking for there is no reason for post at all. One week is enough time to give an access to newcomer to be regular member. Bob and Scott are right, this is technical list, I haven't left it yet but I cannot read it already because of amount of spam flowing through.. I'm loosing bright topics in that mess.. I don't like a special TAGs in subject either. I do not post because of them too. No political stuff, no religious stuff. We are all sorry about last tragedy and I'm living close to twins but PICLIST isn't a right place to discuss a questions like that. This is technical list, it is not a chat, people contributed money to it to discuss and solve technical questions, to share good ideas. What a "nice idea" afterall to flood it with all that information that TV is "supplying" us more than enough. No more multiple tag lines on the bottom. Just one is ok, with brief info about web site or telephone or any other contacts but no pseudo graphics, no huge pictures and drawings attached. Somebody else probably can correct me or put couple more ideas. WBR Dmitry. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.