Right on, brother! The [OT]: tag is totally abused. Things should only be posted to the list that are interesting in a technical sense, regardless of the tag. The use of tags just gives all the Chatty Cathies a green light to blab endlessly, while persons such as myself scan the list int the hope there will be something interesting posted someday soon. Any criticism of the list is treated defensively or with outright hostility by management or by the chatty ones. This is the first post I've made to the list in months. I still scan the list, and I reply to questions, but have only been replying by private email because of the large amount of spam each post generates(as the list is now harvested by usenet) and because of the afore-mentioned hostility. I have zero interest in non-technical issues. The piclist was good when there were no subject line tags, because good people would complain when someone posted off-topic stuff, and it would drop off. Now the [OT]: tag protects that crap. Unfortunately if someone wants to ask a question about something like optics, they have to use the [OT]: tag. Too bad it doesn't even register above the other noise, and many of the smart ones filter out all [OT]: posts so they don't even see it. Posting that optics question with a [PIC]: subject line will get it noticed, but probably only by management or one of the henchmen. Am I making my opinion clear enough for management to understand? The piclist is for technical people. There are philosophy lists for that other stuff. Get rid of non-technical posts and the number of posts will be slashed to a manageable number. Then there will be no need for subject line tags. Problem solved. Piclist improved. I'm now waiting for a slow-top to suggest the need for still more tags, perhaps one to allow for posts relating to optics :-) Please send all defensive or hostile replies to /dev/null or whatever the Windows NT equivalent is :-) Cheerful regards, Bob Blick -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics