I have been following this thread with interest. Thank you all who have contributed for your reasoned and thoughtful submissions. This has been the one thing that has stopped me from switching off OT. Right, that's buttered you all up 8-) I have a question. Does it really make economic sense to go so high pushing all engineering disiplines to the limits or does personal/corporate/city/state ego also come into the equation to justify building the structure ? Either way, in the light of recent events, I would think that risk assesments on skyscrapers worldwide are now been revised particularly by the Insurers and the revised insurance costs could make some of these buildings no longer viable. As a personal aside, I have been up a couple of these buildings in the USA and Canary Whafe in the UK and quiet frankly they scare Willies out of me. (Hell, even the Post Office Tower in London did that) yet I felt safe at the bottom of a South African Gold Mine. There is obviously something wrong with the way my brain is constructed. Regards Chris Carr -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads