>Alll this stuff is in the data sheet, of course: >First, there has to be at least a 2V difference between Vref+ and >Vref-. Vref+ can range from Vdd - 2.5V to Vdd + 0.3V, Vref- can range >from Vss - 0.3V to Vref+ - 2.0V. Perhaps you could point me at which page of the 16F87x data sheet it is on then, because the only reference to the value of Vref I could find was on page 175 of DS30292c where the clock freq is given for Vref >= 3V. The reference manual (DS33023a) does not seem to contain any more than the data sheet that I could see which is why I asked the question. The mode I want to use does not seem to be mentioned anywhere at all. Appreciate your figures anyway. thanks -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads