--0__=85256AC6007593A78f9e8a93df938690918c85256AC6007593A7 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Check out www.trueposition.com. Scott F. Touchton 1550 Engineering Manager JDS Uniphase Don Hyde cc: Sent by: pic Subject: Re: [OT]:cell phone locating microcontrolle r discussion list 09/13/01 05:14 PM Please respond to pic microcontrolle r discussion list The cell phone industry is currently fighting with the FCC over "E911", which would add extra equipment to either cell phone base stations or the cell phone handsets or both, which would make it possible to locate a cell phone making a 911 call. There are technical and economic problems i.e. getting it to work and paying for it, but underlying all the fighting is the fear that it would work all the time. Cell phones are constantly communicating with base stations even when you are not talking. That's how the network knows how to find your cellphone for an incoming call. If it works all the time, then there is a permanent subpoena-able record of your every movement whenever you had your cell phone turned on. Bad guys might hack the system and be able to track you. Divorce attorneys would certainly subpoena such records. Business rival's attorneys might cook up a lawsuit so that they could subpoena such records. It could be a great boon for stalkers, assassins and papparazzi, as well as burglars. Federal courts have already ruled that the FBI could collect such data without a search warrant, since it would not involve entering anyone's home, and would be legally treated as 'traffic analysis' which does not constitute a phone tap. It would require only a single blanket court order to monitor all phones in the country. Could such a system help police find some bad guys? Sure. Bad guys would also be able to find all of us, too. Don't forget that some of the police are bad guys, or are in the pay of bad guys. That's why we have search warrants and Miranda and such. > -----Original Message----- > From: Alice Campbell [mailto:electrifried@GEOLOGIST.COM] > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:49 PM > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: [OT]:cell phone locating > > > Some months ago there was a thread on jamming cell phones. > Now I am wondering how to get the spatial coordinates of a > given cell phone. Is it technically feasible to identify a > single cell phone from a satellite or other high point? > > Maybe you can guess what I'm wondering. > > alice > -- > > _______________________________________________ > FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com > http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup > > Talk More, Pay Less with Net2Phone Direct(R), up to 1500 minutes free! > http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?143 > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList > mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu > > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu --0__=85256AC6007593A78f9e8a93df938690918c85256AC6007593A7 Content-type: application/octet-stream; name="$RFC822.eml" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="$RFC822.eml" Content-transfer-encoding: base64 UmVjZWl2ZWQ6IGZyb20gc2pzbXRwMDEudW5pcGhhc2UuY29tIChbMTAuMTAuNDkuMjM5XSkNCiAg ICAgICAgICBieSBzanNtdHAwMS51bmlwaGFzZS5jb20gKExvdHVzIERvbWlubyBSZWxlYXNlIDUu 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