Roman Black wrote:
>In an attempt to change this from an EMOTIONAL
>discussion to an INTELLECTUAL one, with no offense
>intended to anyone who has emotions on this, as i'm
>sure we all do. :o)
>
>Has anyone noticed the BAD standard of reporting
>on these events?? Or is it just me?
>


Yes, but too soon [same day] for anyone much to know much
of anything.
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>* Media seems VERY intent on lecturing everyone that
>"these must be super-organised super-rich terrorists
>who trained for 10 years". Hmm. Reality?
..........


Fueled by words from ex-CIA morons - like, Woolsey. 8 hours
later, it turns out 3-5 men armed with things like plastic
knives and other sharp items [apparently no guns] took over
the planes, ... alos manuals found in cars telling how to fly
a plane - "... super-organised super-rich ...", indeed.
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>
>* 4th plane crashes in the woods. Nobody knows why.
>BUT we hear some info that on THAT plane a passenger
>used a cell phone and alerted the authorities. Same
>passenger noted an explosion, smoke, then crash??
>Just happened to be middle of nowhere near a small
>airfield? No witnesses? My conclusion, someone made
>the hard call and ordered it shot down by a fighter
>from small airfield when it was safe with no witnesses
>around........


1000s of planes in the air corridor over the east. Literally
impossible to tell if one not near an airport is doing something
a little funny. No time to figure it out, and react [shoot down]
in the time frame in question. Plus plane goes straight into the
gnd, forms a deep 30' x 30' crater, not blown into bits 30,000
feet in the air.
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>
>I'm not a "conspiracy" oriented person, but I must say
>i'm getting really pi$$ed off with being fed hours of
>footage that means very little while the critical facts
>like body count are ignored.
..........
>Wasn't it the Nazis that had a very good control of
>what the media were allowed to tell the people?


Under 24 hours - too soon I think, Roman, to get all the
hard details. One fireman interviewed said, "... body parts
everywhere ...". What more can you say?

They won't know whether 50,000 or 2,000 died in the towers
until all the individual companies involved do head counts.
How long will that take?

One good point is that they interviewed a woman who was on the
"90th" floor of the 1st tower - the plane hit at floor 93.
She and her entire office actually had time to walk down the
stairs 90 floors to safety. Sounds like many had time and means
to get out - thankfully.

BTW, I think we in america have learned to take the output
of the media with a grain of salt - forget most of what they
"say" for the 1st 24 hours, and watch the pictures. Eg, first
thing they said was the 4th plane was "probably" headed for Camp
David. Total BS - they could never even find it in the woods.
It was clearly headed for the White House or Capitol bldg - had
it not crashed. Blowing up Camp David would be "worth" nothing.

- dan
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