Turns out the PA plane crashed while the passengers were trying to wrestle control back from the terrorists. http://www.msnbc.com.edgesuite.net/news/627214_asp.htm These people are true world heroes who saved more lives than they will ever know by not accepting the situation and not rationalizing that they might survive if they capitulated. I cannot express how proud I am of them. --- James Newton, Admin #3 mailto:jamesnewton@piclist.com 1-619-652-0593 VM 1-208-279-8767 FAX PIC/PICList FAQ: http://www.piclist.com or .org -----Original Message----- From: pic microcontroller discussion list [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Peter L. Berghold Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 08:53 To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: [OT]: Disabling hijacking? At 12:08 AM 9/13/2001 +1000, Roman Black wrote: >* Media seems VERY intent on lecturing everyone that >"these must be super-organised super-rich terrorists >who trained for 10 years". Hmm. Reality? Any psycho >McVey and his buddies could have pulled this attack >off. My conclusion? Again deliberate coverup and >misinformation, peasants need to feel secure, and >they don't want to encourage loony groups. We are >being fed an insulting line of baloney. Read my tag line below. During the Oaklahoma City bombing all of the "experts" (has-been drips under pressure) were all set to hang the bombing on some radical Islamic group. Turns out to be one of our own. History repeating itself? >* 4th plane crashes in the woods. Nobody knows why. Could be a thousand reasons why. Including some sinister things. >* We hear really vague reports now about OTHER planes >doing suspicious things. How many? Where? Maybe this >was part of a larger attempt? Briefly heard this. Then nothing. Keep in mind there *were* a lot of things reported quickly without verifying them. Classic example was the report that they found a bunch of explosives on the George Washington Bridge. Turned out that a van with three guys in it were stopped in the Meadowlands and arrested for questioning. No explosives were found. WTF is that about? >I'm not a "conspiracy" oriented person, Neither am I. Nor do I have enough respect for the media or our government to be capable of pulling off a conspiracy and covering it up very well. Playing Devil's advocate for a minute here.... One reason I can think of for not reporting an estimated body count (too early for an accurate one, trust me on this one) would be to not give the bastards satisfaction. Just a thought... One thing that does bother me is the report I hear of their finding a car in Boston "with flight manuals written in Arabic." I'm sorry, but that reads like something from a pulp fiction written for teenager tastes.... -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Peter L. Berghold Peter@Berghold.Net "Those who fail to learn from history are condemned to repeat it." -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body