In an airplane, you care about both speed through the air and speed over the ground. Speed through the air determines whether your wings will generate enough lift to keep you from falling, so it's the more immediate concern. For this you use a pitot tube, which is simply a little tube pointing forward. Ram effect of the air going into the tube raises the pressure inside. The airspeed indicator on the instrument panel is a specially-calibrated (and pretty sensitive) pressure gauge. Speed over the ground is important for figuring out where you are and how long it will take to get where you are going. Classically, it is much more difficult to figure out, since you have to guess at the wind speed and direction and then do some vector math. GPS really simplifies this, especially since all the vector math is hidden inside and done automatically. Power boats also use pitot tubes, but the pressure differential at the speeds of human- or wind-powered boats is so small that it's not practical, at least with mechanical meters. Sailboats often use paddlewheel devices, which project through the hull. One of these might be practical on a canoe, since they only stick out a fraction of an inch in some cases. They are pretty rugged, and might even survive normal canoe use, at least for a while. They are pretty expensive, though. You could buy a halfway decent canoe for the price of some of them. > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Skeels [mailto:meskeels@EARTHLINK.NET] > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 10:31 AM > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: Re: [OT]: Canoe Speedometer > > > Hi, Kat, > > Not sure how that would affect paddling; I s'pose it'd depend > on how you > make the paddle wheel assy. Maybe the best way would be to > hang it off of > the back of the canoe. Biggest problem I see is speed would > be relative to > the water, and in a river, there's current. So, the speed > readout would not > be actual ground speed. > > How do they do it in an airplane? > > Mark > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kathy Quinlan" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 9:37 AM > Subject: Re: [OT]: Canoe Speedometer > > > > A paddle wheel with two or four magnets attached, to a > largish shaft and a > > hall effect device to pick up the magnetic pulses this will > convert them > to > > electrical pulses to be converted to speed by the pic :o) > > > > You need an even number of magnets to keep the paddle wheel evenly > balanced. > > > > I know that any currents will upset the reading, but this is how > commercial > > boats do it :o) > > > > Regards, > > > > Kat. > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > ______________ > > The information contained in this email and any files > transmitted with it > > are confidential and intended solely for the use of the > individual or > entity > > to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error > please > > promptly notify the sender by reply email and then delete > the email and > > destroy any printed copy. If you have received this email > in error, you > must > > not disclose or use this information in any way. > > > ______________________________________________________________ > ______________ > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mark Skeels" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 10:37 PM > > Subject: [OT]: Canoe Speedometer > > > > > > > Greetings, PICsters. > > > > > > How would you go about creating a device to measure and provide a > > real-time > > > readout the speed of a canoe on a lake or a river? (using > a PIC, of > > course?) > > > (...or not...) :-) Only thing I can think of is GPS, but > perhaps sonar, > > or > > > something? > > > > > > > > > Mark Skeels > > > Engineer > > > Competition Electronics > > > meskeels@earthlink.net > > > > > > Soli Deo Gloria! > > > > > > -- > > > http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter > out subtopics > > > (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics > > > > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics > (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics > > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics