After watching my bot crawl across the bumpy yard, sans brains at this point, I can tell you that dead reconing will fail immediately. The thing doesn't even cut a straight path, kind of wanders back and forth, climbing up and down the bumps and over cats, baseball bats molehills etc. Standard GPS is not accurate enough for mowing control. But it would be accurate enough for theft control (see long thread March 2001) to tell when your bot had left the yard. What's the cheapest GPS on the US side of the water? --Lawrence ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Michaels" To: Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [EE]: - Botboard > Madhu Annapragada wrote: > >I have been toying with this idea for a while and I will throw it out there > >to see if it even holds up to the piclist scrutiny. What do you think about > >teaching the bot the first time? With heading information from a compass and > >wheel rotation information from encoders, the bot would build a table of > >heading changes vs wheel rotations the first time (starting from a home > >position). One would use a joystick to mow the lawn the first time. The bot > >records the wheel position every time the heading changes by a certain > >amount. The second time around, the bot would head out in the first heading > >direction until it reaches the wheel rotation figure for the next heading > >change, change to the new heading and so on. > >Of course, the problems I see right away are wheel slippage and noise from > >the compass. But for arguments sake, if I could solve those problems, do you > >see any other potential pitfalls for this method. > ......... > > > Personally, I don't think that a dead reckoning system would work > at all well in this case. Yards are never perfectly flat, and the > moisture content - related to wheel slippage - is going to change > daily. However, if you were to add "some" kind of fixed markers, I > think a combination approach between marker sensing and dead > reckoning based upon an internal representation would put you in > business. > > Possibly a wire around the outer perimeter, as Quiet Joe mentioned, > plus some low bricks at the edge of the flower beds, etc. > > - dan > ============= > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics > (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics > > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics