I think your beacon idea is great but I would use LEDs and modulate them to ensure that reflections, etc.. don't confuse the robot. Here is a way to scan for the beacons. http://www.cyberg8t.com/pendragn/actlite.htm Also, on the subject of safety, I really (REALLY) think that mowbots should use the old multi-scissors clipper bar design operated very slowly (but all the time) to avoid liability. The commercial mowbots do this. P.S. Dave, let me know if you want another B+D battery lawn mower... with a locked up motor... real cheap. Two weeks after the warranty ran out... "Real men use push mowers." --- James Newton, Admin #3 mailto:jamesnewton@piclist.com 1-619-652-0593 VM 1-208-279-8767 FAX PIC/PICList FAQ: http://www.piclist.com or .org -----Original Message----- From: pic microcontroller discussion list [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of David VanHorn Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 10:25 To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: [EE]: - Botboard At 11:57 AM 8/31/01 -0500, Jim wrote: > "For mowing a lawn it may well be possible > to have some IR Led marker posts at strategic > points which the bot could sense." > >What if these IR LED markers were 'swept' at known >intervals over the work area? > >What I mean is, what if they were 'rotated' in place and >acted much like a VOR beacon. > >By taking the angular bearing from 2 (or more of these >beacons) a very accurate position could be determined. >Perhaps this in combination with a perimiter wire to mark >the outer boundary? Why rotate? The beacons could be solar powered, (no mowing at night of course) with movable blinders to restrict their output to cover only the yard. You look around, and if you don't see the beacons, you're out of the yard. If you see one, you're still out of the yard. If you see two, then you can triangulate. There are some nice solar powered lights made that I could see modifying into mowbot beacons. Alternatively, the beacons could be set up the other way, so that as the bot begins to get outside, it comes into view of the beacons, but I am more comfortable with positive control. How would you deal with missing beacons due to kids or damage? One of these days, I want to launch on a mowbot. I already have a B+D battery powered mower. I have an irregular yard. The front is two rectangular sections, divided by a concrete sidewalk, which is crossable, but only at certain points for a mower. The back is one rectangular section, with two apple trees, and some minor hazards. They are joined by a side which is about 4' wide. -- Dave's Engineering Page: http://www.dvanhorn.org I would have a link to http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?KC6ETE-9 here in my signature line, but due to the inability of sysadmins at TELOCITY to differentiate a signature line from the text of an email, I am forbidden to have it. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics