It must be something in the air, I've just done a deal with my dad to swap a 5HP petrol mower for his electric cylinder mower - just to start such a project. Unfortunately in Ireland the grass stays growing in the Winter also, albeit it does slow down a little - one cut a month as against every weekend in the summer (3-4hrs on a tractor mower!) Dan, Where can I get the details on the botboard? John -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics