> Peter: > "Even a simple cover joint with wire-clad gasket has two or > three steps (depending on how you count). > > To what is this applicable? (Microwave oven or choke joint)? > > Jim Both or none. I meant the cover joints normally used in RF proof equipment boxes, with a channel and an o-ring clad with wire (and sometimes flashing), as compared to oven doors. The simple box joints get it down by 40-55 dB in VHF/UHF in my experience, and they are more complex than the oven door joint. I believe what you say about the single-'step' continuously variable attenuators you mention, they can be very good, it's just that as you said, there are other factors (such as oscillator leakage) which prevent them from working perfectly in real life. There is also the small issue of the price tag of those parts and their 'wide' availability. It is trivial to design a T-pad attenuator with resistors for say 80 dB in one stage, but due to real life parasitics, radiative coupling, ground conduction, etc, etc it will do 80 dB only at DC. This is what I meant wrt 'not possible to attenuate in 1 stage'. The 30 dB I gave is a rule of thumb that comes from my experience with real life equipment and attenuators, in the sense that a 30 dB T, L or PI assymetrical attenuator calculated and implemented as designed will indeed attenuate 30 dB +/- 4 dB in the frequency band considered. Above that, the ifs become too many. If I'm not wrong the ARRL handbook also gives (or gave ?) a DIY attenuator schematic, and there too the first two stages are 26 dB, not a single 50 dB stage. Peter -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu