> choke joint Yes but not 1:1.4E6 attenuation in one step. They usually have several impedance steps afair? In my non-extensive experience achieving >50 dB attenuation of nearly anything in 'one step' is no go (assuming it is not tuned). Untuned one-step attenuators seldom go beyond 30 dB assuming that they are to be reproducible and untuned. Even a simple cover joint with wire-clad gasket has two or three steps (depending on how you count). Apropos attenuation, any idea why a cellular phone works perfectly (S meter at 3 of 5 ?!) in a 4 x 2 x 2 meter welded steel safe with the door closed? Not all the seams are welded perfectly (this is not a submarine) but there are not enough bare wires to conduct the cellular signal inside at that level I think ?! Peter -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.