At 09:22 AM 8/11/07 -0700, jim wrote: >Arnold, > >That depends on your definition of "decent". In my book, >the $200.00 for the PICStart Plus is decent. This is a good >value. It works and works well. Same story with the ICD. >I believe it's around $150.00 or so. This too is a good value. Hmm.. I suppose, but I use the BA1FB programmer for AVR devices, at about $5, the JTAG Ice (similar to the ICD) is $40, and the ICE-200 at $200. But then, that's for the AVR line. I know the Picstart does multi-voltage verification, but I don't need that in the AVR. >Now, there are others that supply programmers, and most of them >are pretty good. Some ae less than ideal. And others just plain suck. >But most are good. Usually these are somewhat less expensive. >And quite a few of them need some sort of tweaking to get them to >work just right with your particular machine/software combination. >So, in the long run, you really don't save much money by using the >3rd party stuff. Or at least that's been my experience. I spent quite a while getting a picstart to program F627's and 628s recently, turned out to be a bug in MPLAB. When a new release came out, problem was gone. Mchip denied any known issue though in the earlier version. Point being, everyone has problems once in a while. Not just the off-brands. -- Dave's Engineering Page: http://www.dvanhorn.org I would have a link to http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?KC6ETE-9 here in my signature line, but due to the inability of sysadmins at TELOCITY to differentiate a signature line from the text of an email, I am forbidden to have it. -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body