Peter, I like your creativity, that is an interesting way. Still I am wondering about a battery operated system. I don't think the self-heated would be low current. The security system methode is intersting, but again, I think they would drain a battery. I would like to find something that could wake a PIC from sleep with ultra low current for sensing. I plan to play with some photo transistors, and some photo resistors. I wory about staturation of the photo-transistors, and wory about the small swing of the photo resistors. Time to tinker. Best regards, Giles > >I have just discovered that a self heated thermistor can detect people and >large moving objects as long as they move some air past it. This should >work fine if there are no fans (or wind) blowing into it. > >Peter _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body