Patrick J wrote: About PLL: I know that a PLL is used to lock on to a special freq but everyone here seems to agree on that it can be used to multipy by 8 ?!? Patrick, A phase locked loop is usually used to lock one frequency to another. Consider a simple block diagram of a classical analog PLL. It will have a phase comparison block, sometimes in phase or in quadrature (90 degrees out of phase), which produces an error signal. This error signal indicates whether the feedback signal edge lags or leads the original signal, i.e., whether the feedback signal is a little too fast or a little too slow relative to the original. This error is fed into a filter block - the loop filter - whose output is put into a block containing the voltage to frequency converter (VtoF). The output of the voltage to frequency converter can either be used directly as the feedback to the phase comparison block, or it can be fed into a counter, say a divide by eight, and the output of the counter fed back to the comparison block. But we know that for the comparison block to work, the comparison frequencies need to be the same. The only way for them to be the same is if the output of the VtoF is exactly 8 times higher frequency than the original. Tap off the VtoF to get a frequency exactly 8 times higher than the original. The biggest problem with your design is the very low frequency part. Getting an analog VtoF to operate that low would be difficult. You could try a much larger divide ratio and tap out at the appropriate counter output or you could do the PLL in software. Today most low frequency PLLs are done in software, but you will see very high frequency PLLs used in time measurement circuits for mass spectroscopy time of flight measurements, in fiber optic communication systems, or anywhere that precise time locked signals are required. For example, most DSP's use PLLs to multiply the oscillator to get 2 or 4 times internal clock speeds. Attached is a link to the CD4046 PLL. They will do a much better job explaining its operation. Yes, many companies are obsoleting it, but look at the various 74XXX4046 devices available, then tell me its obsolete. http://www.fairchildsemi.com/pf/CD/CD4046BC.html Regards, Ed -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details. -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body