> > OK - here's a solution that has been suggested by a friend > from the NatSemi > LM336 regulator diode data sheet > That's going to be hard to beat for cost, I think. Maybe one of those self-oscillating ones Roman mention might be cheaper (Royce oscillator?) I guess for low power levels, you don't need the power PNP, so its down to three bipolars and some passives. I've seen a similar one that uses a NPN and PNP in a multivibrator configuration instead of the differential pair. uses one more capacitor, but two less resistors. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics