OK, their is a 100 ways to do this, but I don't want to re-invent the wheel. Are their any reference designs for something like the crocking frog that makes noise when someone walks in front of it? Are they using a photo-resistor and sensing change with a low pass filter? Are they using a photo diode? Photo Transistor? If so, how do they avoid total saturation? Best regards, Giles _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads