Absolutely, I thought the crystal would fail immediately. However, I'm now in the situation that the oscillator only oscillates if I push it slightly sideways. It then clicks and starts oscillating. I've checked and resoldered it and the contact is good. I can only conclude that there is an intermitent contact internally. When I push it sideways I even use insulated probes so capacitance/resistance shouldn't be the answer. The clicking noise makes me think more mechanical...... Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Butler To: Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [PIC]: Oscillator leads > I have heard that it is better to shear crystal leads than to nip them. > Use cutters whose blade pass by like scissors, rather than blades that > meet head on. I have never noticed a difference, but a always trim the > leads AFTER they are soldered. I would expect any failure to occur > within a few seconds at most. > > Sherpa Doug > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Benjamin Bromilow [mailto:btbromilow@LINEONE.NET] > > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 11:52 AM > > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > > Subject: [PIC]: Oscillator leads > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > How does anyone cut the leads on crystal oscillators? I used some wire > > cutters and after a week the crystal failed.... I've heard > > before that you > > need to do it a different way to avoid the shockwaves going > > up the lead and > > cracking the crystal but how does anyone do it?? Is it better to do it > > before soldering it in?? Alternatively if crystals are "weak" would a > > resonator be a better option in an automotive setting? What > > does anyone > > think?? > > > > TIA, > > Ben > > > > ps I've programmed some 16F877s using the modified NOPPP > > software and they > > work just fine (the above was on 16F84s!). > > Source code: website.lineone.net/~btbromilow/noppp2.c > > Zipped executable website.lineone.net/~btbromilow/noppp2.zip > > > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics > > (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics > > > > > > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics > (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics > > > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics