Hi all, How does anyone cut the leads on crystal oscillators? I used some wire cutters and after a week the crystal failed.... I've heard before that you need to do it a different way to avoid the shockwaves going up the lead and cracking the crystal but how does anyone do it?? Is it better to do it before soldering it in?? Alternatively if crystals are "weak" would a resonator be a better option in an automotive setting? What does anyone think?? TIA, Ben ps I've programmed some 16F877s using the modified NOPPP software and they work just fine (the above was on 16F84s!). Source code: website.lineone.net/~btbromilow/noppp2.c Zipped executable website.lineone.net/~btbromilow/noppp2.zip -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics