>Since the owner was driving in a rapidly flooding >parking lot in water nearly up to the door sills when the car >stalled, and the engine never ran again (actually, never turned >over again), I accepted the bottom breathing, water ingestion >diagnosis. This sort of problem also afflicts motor boats. In this case what can happen is a misfire in the engine makes the crankshaft kick in the reverse direction, typically when starting the engine. This in turn can suck water up the exhaust pipe into the engine, which then tends to cause damaged pistons, valves and crankshaft when another cylinder does actually manage to fire. The standard method of avoiding this problem is to have an expansion chamber somewhere in the exhaust system which has a volume greater than the total swept volume of the engine. The incoming exhaust pipe needs to be above the water level in this chamber if the engine did manage to complete a full revolution in reverse so it does not suck any water back into the cylinders. Needless to say this chamber should be above the waterline when the boat is at a mooring so it is not full of water before you even try and start the motor! -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads