I have a few home-made ICSP cables for the PSP and 1 foot to 2 foot is fine no problems. I do use single wires, not ribbon, and leave them a bit loose. Fine for all flash chips i've tried, but then I haven't yet tried a '871. I do suspect the capacitance issue is not that big a problem, provided you have well wired system. :o) -Roman Dave Johnson wrote: > > >How "short" is your "short" cable? I'm not familar with the PicStart item > >but if it is anything like my home-made parallel programmer then the cable > >length can be critical. > About 4 inches. As I said, this cable has worked OK for lots of other > in-circuit programming of 16F877s, so it's not my first suspect. But > I'm no expert on the electronic subtleties, could there be something > about the '871 that makes it more sensitive to these things? -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body