> Only if it puts VPP on before VCC, or does not change a pin input output
> state while reading/verifying.

I don't think this is the case, but I will doublecheck.

> Make sure your power, VCC and GND, appear right at the PIC pins.

From all my testing, this check out.

> Is VPP appearing on other pins as well as MCLR?

I pulled the chip off the socket and onto a breadboard  I ran wires only
to the pins necessary.

> Do the chips get hot if VPP is isolated?

I'm not sure what you mean by this.

> Can you program it in LVP mode?

I briefly messed around with this, but I was doing some pretty hackish
things.  I couldn't get the chip to program and verify, but the contents
of the chip would change after I programmed it.  (just not in a very
repeatable way.)  Maybe I will look into setting this up in a more correct
way.

> It's quite possible that the chips were faulty in the first place, maybe
> static damage??

Yes, I suppose it's possible, but I'm doubtful.

I had 5 16f628 (I believe they all got hot), and they came packaged
correctly, etc.

I also have tried 1 16f877 (different order) which was also packaged
correctly.  The 877 doesn't get hot, though.


I can program 16f84s at will.  Frustrating.

-Steve

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