For small quantities, microchip's MP-LAB ICD (for around US$100) makes programming 16f877's a snap. I use it all the time without any problems. Sam.... "May the roof over your head never leak until it rains gold." ("`-''-/").___..--''"`-._ `6_ 6 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' (il),-'' (li),' ((!.-' -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Webb [mailto:swebb@NETLAB.UKY.EDU] Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 3:56 PM To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: [PIC]: Cant program a 16f628 or a 16f877 w/ YAP-II. Buy Warp-13? Basically I haven't been able to program anything buy a 16f84 with the YAP-II programmer. I love the 'f84 and all, but I need other features. I have tried several times to program a 16f628 and the chip gets hot, and doesn't program. I have spent some time investigating, and I don't know what the heck is going on. I also bought a few 16f877 parts, but can't get them to work either. (they don't get hot, though) Of course, I think I am hooking them up correctly, as far as I can tell from the programming spec datasheet. Anyway, I'm at my wits end here. Myke Predko (designer of YAP-II) has been nice enough to buy some 16f628 parts to try to figure it out, but with no luck yet. So, I saw this Warp-13 programmer on eBay, and it supposedly programs the 16f877. I'm wondering if anyone has had any luck with this programmer. Any input is welcome. I'm about to go crazy. -Steve -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu