Here in Southern California, it's commonly pronounced like dumber. I hope that helps. :-) Just for the record, the 'b' actually sounds like a second 'm' in both cases. Mind you this information is coming from somebody that spells his last name with an 'e' preceding an 'i' and no 'c' in sight. Not only that, but the 'e' is a long 'e' and the 'i' is silent. -Mike -----Original Message----- From: Quentin [mailto:qsc@icon.co.za] Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 12:03 PM To: PICLIST@mitvma.mit.edu Subject: [OT]: Plumber Waaay OT. Sorry, I am in between projects here, and are having one of those rare breaks today where I think about everything 'cept PICs and electronics. I've got a bet going about the word plumber. Dictionary says the "b" is not pronounced. My argument is that, since Americans pronounce everything the way they see it, they do pronounce the "b", even if it is a soft one, it is still pronounced. Comments? My English friends can also make their comments here. Got a couple of beers riding on this one. Quentin -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.