Hello Piclisters, there are so many excellent programmers on the list. I wonder if it was not possible to speed up the download process of the registers and FSRs for the MPLAB-ICD. There are only about 700 bytes of registers and SFRs at the 16F877. They should transfer in about 100 msec. at 57600 baud if i didnt make a mistake. Since the firmware is partially open to us there might be some chance for improvements, as far as the bottleneck is not in the MPLAB-DLLs. Does anybody have more detailed information about that topic? Germain Morbe -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.