> > > > > The clamping diodes are useful when working with large input voltages > > > needing only an external current limiting resistor for this purpose. > > > > > > >This comment is likely to reignite a religious war here on PICLIST. There > >are those that state that you must have more than a simple series resistor. > >Others claim that this technique is valid. > > Most devices have similar clamping diodes. > The problem is that most manufacturers won't specify how much current you > can put into a pin in this manner. So, if you end up depending on this, > you're into a grey area as far as a dependable production design. > > If you get it wrong, you risk SCR latchup on the die, and the only way out > is to power down, and let the device cool. (assuming it hasn't been toasted) > > >2: in the dc parameters the maximum current is limited to (for some typical > >chips) 20 ma. > > Output current rating, not related to how much you can safely dump through > the protection diodes. > For the '876 line at least, there are specs in the 'absolute maximum ratings' section that state: Input clamp current, IIK (VI < 0 or VI > Vdd) == +/- 20mA Output clamp current, IOK (VO < 0 or VO > Vdd) == +/- 20mA Don't get me wrong: you gotta build to be in specs. But you should know what the specs really are, and not just design based on old-wives-tales and the like. Bob Ammerman RAm Systems (contract development of high performance, high function, low-level software) -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads