At 09:48 PM 8/3/01 +0200, you wrote: >Now this sounds interesting. What is the "Vpp fix"? One programmer was upgraded from FW1.5, the other from 2.0. MPLAB Help->Picstart Help->Picstart+ Vpp adjustment (near the bottom) Required for Rev. 7 or lower. The 1.5 certainly sounds suspicious, not sure about the other one. Interesting that you are using two programmers, I wonder if there is any correlation. Best regards, =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com Contributions invited->The AVR-gcc FAQ is at: http://www.bluecollarlinux.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body