We have recently migrated from PIC16C622A to PIC16F628. Yesterday we = programmed 500 parts (F628) using a Picstart Plus with FW 2.30 / MPLAB = 5.30, with the same setup we normally program C622 with (changed device = in MPLAB ofcourse). All parts are codeprotected during programming. Today we started testing the PC boards that came from production, but = we're experiencing device failures, on about every 10th device. I tried = reprogramming the devices which failed during test, and most works = perfectly after a reprogram... I then tried my development setup, with another Picstart Plus, = programmed 25 devices without codeprotection, which where all programmed = "successfully" according to Picstart Plus... then I did a "verify" on = each device, and 4 out of the 25 failed! Seemed they just read out = random data. Anyone experienced the same? Another thing; 16F628 is very slow to program in the Picstart Plus = compared to 16C622A, probably because of the flashmemory instead of = EPROM.. Will Promate be able to program them faster?=20 Regards Jacob Blichfeldt jacob@blichfeldt.dk http://www.blichfeldt.dk -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body