> "Global warming is the flip side. " > > A gross assumption NOT supported by all science > OR scientists, including some Greens this last year > who have come to their better senses ... Global warming (GW) is indeed an unproven hypothesis (as all scientific hypotheses must be). Available data indicates that past relatively short term variations in global temperature have occurred which are substantially greater than what we may be seeing now. Available data suggests that available data on the current trends may be inconclusive :-). There are however strong indications that our actions MAY be a major factor in significant GW trends. Those who claim that the idea that "GW is a totally man made phenomena" is an established fact which we can certainly redress are deluded and in SOME cases self serving. HOWEVER Those who would reject the hypothesis outright and act as if we can proceed unchecked until we know more are equally or more deluded and in MANY cases self serving. Those who would err on the side of protecting the world unnecessarily are, I feel, to be preferred to those who would err on the side of destroying the world unnecessarily. Some seem to disagree. The history of the world to date (with or without elsewhere mentioned communists being involved :-) ) suggests that the self interested destroyers are all too often successful in their aims. The main difference is that the damage we can do by being wrong is much larger now than in ages past. (Be it with nuclear weapons, nuclear power, global warming, genetic engineering or whatever).(Of these I feel that GE is the currently most certain to cause major catastrophe in the medium term, but that's another story). regards Russell McMahon -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads