At 04:04 AM 8/1/01 +1000, you wrote: >What about using a rotorless system like in >the movie Red October?? If you apply electricity >to the water itself you can move it with a magnetic >field. There are a few experiments like this on >the net. Model "stealth" sub anyone?? ;o) Web search for magnetohydrodynamics (MHD) may turn something up. I kinda suspect that with hobby materials it will be especially stealthy because it won't move, but I'd love to be shown wrong on that. Best regards, =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com Contributions invited->The AVR-gcc FAQ is at: http://www.bluecollarlinux.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads