At 03:33 PM 7/30/01 -0400, you wrote: > >Really? This doesnt quite have the "ring of truth" to it. >I mean.... the entire plated thru process is skipped. >And I gotta beleive that single sided stock is cheaper >than double sided stock. It's both true and not true. ;-) Ommmmm... If you go around asking for boards in quantities like 500 or 2,000 pieces from domestic manufacturers you'll see very little price saving unless you are in a country where consumer electronics is made. Then, going for a single-sided punched board on paper-based phenolic can be astoundingly cheap, but there is a tool cost $$$$ to prepare the punch set. There is no drilling, just *whap* in the punch press and the board pops out, including whatever outline you can draw (within reason). They can even punch the outline out and shove it back into the surrounding panel for easy handling. It's all very low-tech, using screen printing, air drying (well, maybe UV curing) etc. Typically these boards are priced per m^2 rather than per in^2 !. There are a few remaining manufacturers who still do this for domestically made appliances and so on, but the tooling cost is very high and they expect big runs. Best regards, =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com Contributions invited->The AVR-gcc FAQ is at: http://www.bluecollarlinux.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu