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From: "David Venz" <davidv@FOXBORO.COM.AU>
To: <PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: [EE]: Inexpensive schematic/PCB CAD [and veroboard]


<el snipo>

Hello Fellow aussie :o)


> Also, does anyone have some general hints on Veroboard design?  I've been
spoilt
> at Uni with PCBs, and now I'm out I thought I'd give Vero a go as an
inexpensive
> option for permanent (hobby) designs.  ATM I'm thinking of using a
combination
> of uninsulated tinned copper, enamel RF winding wire (strip ends to
copper) and
> normal plastic-insulated multi-strand hookup wire (i.e. individual bits of
> ribbon cable) for interconnects.  I've also made up a "package" of the
current
> Veroboard I'm using (a Dick Smith variety - yep, I'm an Aussie) so I can
try
> various placements in Eagle.  One thing though - using it currently breaks
my
> forward/backward annotation :(  Still thinking on a way around this
(possibly
> use of holes instead of pads).  I'm willing to post these boards as a
library,
> and my findings if people want.

A great subject of mine :o)

Ok my recommendation for veroboard and breadboard (you know the white boards
with the leaf contacts in the plastic and wired busses in strips) is to go
find a friendly telephone installer and ask for a scrap piece of say 100pr
phone cable, failing that get solid cat 5 /5e /6 cable and use its
conductors. As for the laying out, I tend to replace the pencil and paper
with protel :o) I have made a board layout of the standard sized vero boards
I use (including the RS euro card ones) and just move parts around, I had to
make a cut track here part, but it works well, and avoids the stuff ups :o),
if I disable the track layer for the board, and put a bottom track layer in,
I can even get designs verified by net list generation.

Regards,

Kat.

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