Yapp, this is it, but only sometime pasting at the end of the operation
gives you nothing...
Vasile

On Sun, 29 Jul 2001, Robert E. Griffith wrote:

> Hey Dave, I could not figure out how to copy stuff from lib to lib either
> until somebody told me.
>
> 1) You open the lib.
> 2) select a symbol or package (can't copy an entire device)
> 3) draw a group rectangle around everything (zooming way out makes this
> easy)
> 4) hit the 'cut' command (it actually copies - not cut)
> 5) hit the go button (oh, yeah that's obvious)
>
> 6) close lib - open your lib
> 7)  create a new symbol or package (using the original name or different)
> 8) hit the paste button.
> 9) place the copied object.
>
> --BobG
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pic microcontroller discussion list [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On
> Behalf Of David Venz
> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 9:32 PM
> To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject: Re: [EE]: Inexpensive schematic/PCB CAD [and veroboard]
>
> Just tried out Eagle on the weekend and it is pretty good (only other
> experience
> is with Protel).  Thanks to those who suggested it.
>
> One annoying thing I've come across though - haven't been able to figure out
> how
> to copy "packages" (i.e. footprints) or "symols" (schematic) between
> libraries.
> I think I understand Eagle's reason behind their Device = [1 symbol + 1-n
> packages] structure (for strict management of pinouts etc) but I'd like to
> be
> able to copy packages/devices/symbols between libraries.
>
> Perhaps some Piclisters have suggestions before I have to go wading into
> Eagle
> forums/e-lists?
>
> Also, does anyone have some general hints on Veroboard design?  I've been
> spoilt
> at Uni with PCBs, and now I'm out I thought I'd give Vero a go as an
> inexpensive
> option for permanent (hobby) designs.  ATM I'm thinking of using a
> combination
> of uninsulated tinned copper, enamel RF winding wire (strip ends to copper)
> and
> normal plastic-insulated multi-strand hookup wire (i.e. individual bits of
> ribbon cable) for interconnects.  I've also made up a "package" of the
> current
> Veroboard I'm using (a Dick Smith variety - yep, I'm an Aussie) so I can try
> various placements in Eagle.  One thing though - using it currently breaks
> my
> forward/backward annotation :(  Still thinking on a way around this
> (possibly
> use of holes instead of pads).  I'm willing to post these boards as a
> library,
> and my findings if people want.
>
> So yeah - I'm after some general hints on using Veroboard, and maybe doing
> it
> with CAD (Eagle, Protel) rather than good ol' paper and pencil (Vutrax site
> is
> sketchy/product-specific on this, but it was a start).  And some help with
> those
> darn libraries.
>
> TIA,
> -Dave.
>
> "Robert E. Griffith" wrote:
>
> > I just went through this search myself.  Vutrax and Eagle are two that I
> > tried. The free download version of each is slightly limited (Eagle limits
> > the board size to 3 x 4 in.) I tried Vutrax first and for several days
> > struggled with the tutorial.  The UI is very haphazard - huge learning
> curve
> > because the UI concepts are not well thought out.
> >
> > Then I switched to Eagle and I love it!  The concepts are very clear.
> Much
> > easier, and for me, much better. Some would say Vutrax is more powerful
> once
> > you master it - maybe good for someone using it  hours a day.
> >
> > Get Eagle at www.cadsoftusa.com .  $50 registration gets you printed docs
> > and a little lager boards.  Full version more $$.
> >
> > --BobG
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pic microcontroller discussion list
> [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On
> > Behalf Of Duane Brantley
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 2:30 PM
> > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> > Subject: [EE]: Inexpensive schematic/PCB CAD
> >
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > Does anyone make an inexpensive schematic/PCB CAD program for the home
> > hobbyist?  One that is not to expensive nor crippled?
> >
> > Thanks for the input,
> >
> > Duane Brantley
> > KD5NFQ
> >
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