Nice to know. I asked for the the 16F84A, and ELFA in Norway told me = they would make it available late this year!!! :-))) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Byron A Jeff" To: Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [PIC]: 16f84 v 16f84a > On Fri, Jul 27, 2001 at 02:55:36PM +0100, David Stubbs wrote: > > Hey, > > > > I asked about some 16f84's at a shop a bit ago and they told me they = were no > > longer in production but a 16f84a version is available. I haven't = had time > > to properly look through the 16f84a's data sheets yet but want to = know the > > main differences. The only difference I know is that a 20MHz version = is > > available, where I believe a 10MHz was the max for the non A one. > > > > One main issue though, Is it exactly the same to write the program = to it? (I > > use my own software to program it) >=20 > Just a friendly piece of advise on the subject. Don't use the 16F84a = parts. > Microchip is clearly trying to put them into an end of life state. >=20 > The alternative is the 16F628. Readily available at Digikey. Here's = the scoop. >=20 > - Twice the program memory > - Three times the data memory > - three timers vs. 1 for the 16F84a > - two comparators vs. 0 for the 16F84a > - twice the data eeprom memory > - hardware USART > - up to 3 extra I/O pins. > - 4 Mhz internal osciallator. > - Runs up to 20 Mhz. > - Can be low voltate programmed. >=20 > And you get this all at 2/3 the price of a 16f84a. That's right. The = part > costs a lot less. At digikey the 16f84a is $6.00. The 16F628 is $3.88 = in the > 20 Mhz version. >=20 > The parts are both pin and programming compatible. Be sure to check = for any > differences in the config word though. >=20 > Considering that you get a whole bunch more for a whole lot less, I = can't see > any reason to purchase 16F84a parts anymore. And considering the = pricing, I'm > pretty sure that's what Microchip expects. >=20 > BAJ >=20 > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics > (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.