>- The 12C508A is about 80 cents, but requires external BOR, but has int. >clock. In my experience the watchdog in a 12C508A can substitute for a missing BOR if you apply some continuous self-checking algorythm (cpu exercizer etc). Peter -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics