On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Peter L. Peres wrote: > A copper arc welder will produce a lot of copper oxide. > > The exploding wire (and tape) method produces liquid copper flying at > speeds in excess of the speed of sound. When this hits a clean > semiporous surface like alumina or ceramics it goes in several microns and > is impossible to remove other then chemically. However the layer will be > very uneven. If you do this in a vacuum like Vasile suggested you can have > better results (evaporation and cathode arc plating are slow). And > building a 1x10^-5 atm vaccum chamber is NOT easy for amateurs as he said. > Probably I forgot to mention, I'm working into a physics institute where I have all I need to play with vacuum ( and all except the vacuum pump are "homebrewed" here). You don't need a thousens dollars vacuum instalation like probably Peter thinks ( sorry! ) However read the following and tell me if you think I'm wrong ( but I'm not talking without to know... ): - almost good evaporation can be done at 10 exp-3 atm which can be obtain using a water pressure vacuum pump. ( tested and works ), however a 10 exp -5 vacuum pump ( without secondary thermal difusion stage ) is not to expensive ( here ) if you really want it... - all the problems with vacuum ( testing the tightness of the chamber, BTW, electrical connections trough electrodes and to evaporation owen are made from cutted power diodes or thyristors ) are solved if you have or you know to built a HV vacuum leackage testing device or you have or know also to built a vacuum-meter. - the whole chamber at 10 exp -3...-5 may be from 10mm glass, sealed with vacuum silicone vaseline or made from stainless stell ( that's we built here ) - and finally a HV supply with a couple of unstabilised KV, I think is not a big deal for a good engineer ( else is not an engineer...) We built here gas spectrometers which have complete vacuum stages up to 10 exp -7 or more, if the vacuum technology is restrained then is no big deal as I said. Of course is difficult for someone who knows almost nothing about vacuum, but everyone can learn. Knowing Joe Colquitt ( as Jinx, on this list) pretty well, I think he could do this... ) We have an experiment like this, which our children are teaching about and experiment in high-school... A long time ago I repaired using this technology, one eprom in ceramic package, because I need the source inside into an old computer. I've vaporised aluminium, it takes less than 2 minutes, and after that I've glued the missing pin with a silver (high temperature) paste I hope you understood now my point of view. Sincerely yours, Vasile -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics