At 02:03 PM 7/26/01 -0700, you wrote: >Fairchild ACE1101? No joy with these. > Holtek MCU's? Capital suggestion. Someone here mentioned using them about a year ago. I'll compare and contrast. I'm leaning more towards the (>8 pins) PIC16HV540 or PIC16C505 at the moment, though they are not ideal, after a pot or two of coffee. The Holtek ones seem to have a reasonable instruction set (overflow flag, table lookup) and features (BOR, buzzer drive, 8 bit timer) for a really low end device. Best regards, =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com Contributions invited->The AVR-gcc FAQ is at: http://www.bluecollarlinux.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads