If you are trying to save space you're on a loser here. The 600V+ rated capacitor required to give >100mA in a transformerless power supply is *MUCH* bigger than than a transformer. *AND* about twice the price. Bye. -----Original Message----- From: Alexandre Domingos F. Souza [mailto:taito@TERRA.COM.BR] Sent: Thursday, 26 July 2001 10:53 To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Transformerless PSU Dear guys, I think it's a basic one, but maybe fits the list I designed a circuit with a PIC (12C508) that turns on and off a relay, controlled by an external source. The power to this circuit (around 120mA) is a small transformer. I'd like to build a transformerless PSU into this circuit. But EVERY scheme I found on the internet was unusable. I saw something on the Embeeded Control Handbook from Microchip, but it only goes to (if I'm not mistaken) 45 mA. Maybe someone can help me to develop (or at least learn to) a simple transformerless PSU that can give me 12vcc / 120 mA??? Thanks for any info! :o) ---8<---Corte aqui---8<---- Alexandre Souza taito@terra.com.br http://planeta.terra.com.br/lazer/pinball/ ---8<---Corte aqui---8<---- -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu ************************************************************************* This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of the New South Wales Department of Education and Training. ************************************************************************* -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu