At 11:59 PM 7/25/01 -0300, you wrote: > Nah, I need it to be as small and CHEAP as possible :o( Any sugestions? ;o) If you insist, you can scale the supplies by simply increasing the capacitance and beefing up the other parts. But first try to reduce the current your circuit requires as much as possible. The higher the series resistor you put in there, the more heat you get, but the more resistant to transients your circuit will be. To get 100mA from a 240V 50Hz supply, you'd need a couple of uF rated for across the line operation (preferably 630VDC rating or UL/CSA X type if you want it to be relatively trouble-free). That means a fairly large film capacitor. They are fairly cheaply available (polyester). A transformer is usually better unless your product is throw-away cheap and dirty. Best regards, =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com Contributions invited->The AVR-gcc FAQ is at: http://www.bluecollarlinux.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu