> That's what they make water-cooled Ignitrons for. Actually the relay in a car starter shoud get you going. If you immerse it in oil it will even last a while. Make that light oil and provide for accidental ignition. Exploding copper is not to be taken lightly. The flying copper carries a lot of energy besides the heat and it can do really lasting damage to people and objects. Peter -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.