At 08:24 AM 7/21/01 -0400, you wrote: >Instead of all these electrodeposition shenanigans, why not just use an > electroplating "pen" to plate copper on the surface? You'd need a conductive surface to start with, and the ceramic is a quite good insulator. The "activation" techniques used to make plated-through-hole PCBs might work to provide a surface for the electroplating. I suspect (don't know for sure) that it is done commercially by printing a conductive ink onto the ceramic disks and then firing the disk in a controlled atmosphere (to prevent oxidation). But, for a one-off, maybe it's possible to use the conductive stuff you can buy to repair car rear window heaters.. I think auto supply shops stock that. Best regards, =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com Contributions invited->The AVR-gcc FAQ is at: http://www.bluecollarlinux.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics